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    Tungsten Outpaces Gold and Copper as Global Supply Tightens

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    • β€’Hey everyone, just read this absolute gem of an article from Streetwise Reports about tungsten outperforming gold and copper ( full article here ).
    • β€’The part about tungsten prices soaring 557% is just wild!
    • β€’My wife keeps telling me to look at other materials, maybe I should start listening more!
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    Hey everyone, just read this absolute gem of an article from Streetwise Reports about tungsten outperforming gold and copper (full article here). The part about tungsten prices soaring 557% is just wild! I've been so focused on the usual suspects like gold and copper for my metals exposure, especially in my retirement portfolio, that I totally missed the boat on this one. It’s a good reminder that staying ahead of these trends is crucial, not just for growth but also for diversifying away from the more commonly understood precious metals. My wife keeps telling me to look at other materials, maybe I should start listening more!

    My initial thought is that with the global supply tightening, especially with industrial demand, tungsten seems like it's got some real legs. I’ve always leaned into gold as a hedge, especially considering inflation concerns and wanting to safeguard my kids' future, but the industrial angle of tungsten is pretty compelling. It’s not just a store of value; it's a critical component in so many modern technologies. I’m thinking about how much of my current portfolio is tied up in more traditional assets, and seeing numbers like 557% growth makes me question if I’m truly diversified enough for long-term security. This could be a good area to dig into.

    What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone here been paying attention to tungsten or other critical metals? Maybe even invested in companies like Allied Critical Metals or American Tungsten? I’m always looking to refine my strategy, especially as I get closer to retirement. Speaking of which, for those of you also planning for the long haul, I recently came across this Gold IRA Blueprint tool that’s been pretty helpful for understanding how to integrate precious metals into a retirement plan. Could be really useful for some of you looking into different baskets for your nest egg, not just physical gold.

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    thomas_walkerπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    This is an interesting read, been keeping an eye on industrial metals myself as a small part of my diversification. For anyone looking deeper into resource scarcity and its impact on precious metals, I found this S&P Global Market Intelligence article on gold and silver outlook pretty insightful. It touches on how these broader supply chain issues can affect PM demand. Always good to look at the bigger picture beyond just what's in the news cycle.

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    barbara_whiteπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting read, but I'm not sure tungsten's jump really changes the core thesis for holding physical gold in a retirement account. I'm sitting on a decent stack in a Gold IRA, and for me, it's about inflation hedging and portfolio stability, not chasing the next industrial metal surge. Tungsten's got industrial demand, sure, but it doesn't have the millennia of monetary history, geopolitical safe-haven appeal, or the liquidity of gold. Keep the shiny stuff as your bedrock.

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    ashley_bakerπŸ’ΌStarter (0-50k)βœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting article, but I'm not sold on tungsten as a primary safe-haven or inflation hedge for a retail investor's IRA. The liquidity issues alone would make me incredibly nervous; how quickly could I actually *sell* a chunk of tungsten if I needed to, especially compared to even physical silver? Prices might outpace, but accessibility and fungibility are huge factors for me in Charleston, where I'm not exactly tripping over industrial buyers.

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    charles_lewisπŸ’ŽPremium (500k-1m)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    This "tungsten as an investment" talk always makes me chuckle a bit, remembering my uncle back in Philly. He was convinced in '08 that platinum was the next big thing, pouring a good chunk of his retirement into it right before the meltdown. I stuck with my gold, diversifying into a Gold IRA with some silver rounds, and honestly, the stability during those crazy years was a lifesaver. Hard to beat that feeling of physical wealth when the market's doing acrobatics.

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    paul_hillπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting read. While I appreciate keeping up with other commodities, my Gold IRA allocation is primarily focused on hedging against inflation and geopolitical instability. I actually stumbled across a fantastic resource lately – the World Gold Council's website. Their "Gold Demand Trends" quarterly reports are incredibly detailed and provide a much more nuanced perspective on the factors actually driving the gold market than the mainstream financial news does. Their data on central bank buying alone is eye-opening.

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    patricia_millerπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)βœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting headline, but as a Gold IRA investor, my focus isn't on chasing the latest commodity bubble. I remember when cobalt was supposed to be the next big thing. My advice? Stick to the long game with assets that have proven their value over millennia, especially in times of real uncertainty. Let the day traders chase tungsten; I'll sleep soundly with my gold.

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    timothy_reedπŸ’ŽPremium (500k-1m)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    This is *fascinating*. I remember looking into tungsten for industrial plays maybe 5-6 years ago but never pulled the trigger. Sticking with gold for the long game in my IRA felt safer. Seeing these numbers now, part of me wishes I'd diversified some, especially with how tight global supply chains are getting. Good callout.

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    sandra_greenπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)βœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Been looking into this myself β€” the fees on some of these custodians are wild. Anyone found one that doesn't gouge you?

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    elizabeth_johnsonπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    @Patricia Miller, you hit the nail on the head. "Chasing the latest commodity bubble" is exactly what I ran from after 2008. I actually had a decent chunk of change tied up in some 'innovative tech' fund back then, thinking I was so smart diversifying from my traditional stock portfolio. Lost about 30% of that in a few months, and it took years just to break even. That experience taught me a harsh lesson about volatility and the allure of those 'next big thing' stories. When I eventually decided to open my Gold IRA, around 2012, it wasn't because someone told me gold was going to 10x overnight. It was because I was tired of the whiplash. My financial advisor at the time (who I've since moved on from) actually tried to talk me out of it, saying it was a "dead asset" compared to growth stocks. But living in Atlanta, seeing the boom and bust cycles every few years, I wanted something that felt like a rock. I started small, about $40k, moved from a Roth 401k. Now, it's sitting comfortably

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    andrew_robertsπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting article, but I'm not sure tungsten's current momentum translates into a sound long-term investment for a significant portion of a retirement portfolio. I've seen these "hot new commodity" narratives come and go – remember rare earth metals a decade ago? For my taste, the liquidity and established track record of actual physical gold in an IRA is hard to beat, especially with the geopolitical winds the way they are.

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    michael_andersonπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting thread, though I gotta say, my portfolio is definitely not feeling any tungsten FOMO just yet. I remember back in '08 when everyone was hyping up rare earth minerals, and a good buddy of mine actually sunk a decent chunk of change into a fund that was supposed to ride that wave. He was in Evanston, I was in Lincoln Park, and we'd meet up for beers at The Galway Bay, him always talking about supply chain bottlenecks and China's dominance. Fast forward a few years, and let's just say his rare earth dreams turned into rare earth dust. Meanwhile, my little gold allocation (which GIRAB actually helped me refine, gotta admit) weathered the storm and then some. I'm sticking to the shiny yellow stuff for now.

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    ronald_morrisπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting data point, and I generally appreciate discussions that look beyond the obvious. While the supply-side story for tungsten is compelling, I can't quite bring myself to see it as a direct competitor or even a complementary asset class for a significant portion of a precious metals allocation, particularly within an IRA. My main concern is the lack of widespread market transparency and liquidity compared to gold; I’ve always valued the established and globally recognized role of gold as a foundational hedge, something tungsten simply isn't engineered for. The exit strategy feels a lot murkier.

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    gary_stewartπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)β€’about 9 hours ago

    @Andrew Roberts I hear you on the "hot new commodity" skepticism, and honestly, I felt the same way about gold a few years back. Before finding GIRAB, I thought most of these "safe haven" pitches were just marketing hype. But honestly, watching my Fresno-based portfolio hold steady through some pretty wild market swings last year, while my tech stocks took a beating, really made me a believer. It's not about chasing the next big thing, it's about having some stability when everything else is going sideways.

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    karen_robinsonπŸ’ΌStarter (0-50k)β€’about 9 hours ago

    @Paul Hill - I totally get where you're coming from on the core hedging, that's why I landed on gold too after seeing what happened to my folks' 401k a few years back. But honestly, while I appreciate the stability, sometimes I wonder if focusing *too* much on just gold's traditional role keeps us from seeing other possibilities. Like, are we leaving some growth on the table by not diversifying within the "hard asset" sphere *at all* inside the IRA, even just a tiny percentage? My custodian offers silver too, and I've been eyeing that, even though GIRAB kinda pushed me past the initial "gold is the *only* way" mindset.

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    carol_carterπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    @Elizabeth Johnson, I know *exactly* what you mean about chasing the latest thing. My own "innovative tech" blunder wasn't 2008, but more like 2013-2014. I got sucked into a local Omaha startup that promised to revolutionize how small businesses did their inventory – think fancy QR codes and AI long before it was cool. Sounded brilliant on paper, and the founder was a smooth talker. I sunk about $75k of a bonus into it, convinced I was getting in on the ground floor of the next big thing. Turns out, "next big thing" usually means "next big money pit" for retail investors like me. The firm burned through cash faster than a prairie wildfire, and two years later, it was belly up. That's when I swore off chasing butterflies and started looking for stability. It’s what eventually led me here to Gold IRA Blueprint, trying to claw back some of that lost capital with something tangible.

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    margaret_chenπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    @Timothy Reed Totally feel you on the "safer" vibe with gold, especially for the long game in an IRA. I had a similar hang-up, honestly β€” spent way too long getting burned by 'new opportunity' emails before I even looked at precious metals. When I finally decided to diversify *into* something tangible after seeing my tech stocks do... well, *that*... gold was the only one that felt like it had the proven track record for an IRA. This forum, actually, did a far better job breaking down the real-world mechanics and fees than any of those slick webinars ever did. Made me realize it's not just about the metal, but how you hold it.

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    mark_adamsπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting article. I remember my father, a materials engineer, always said tungsten was the real "heavy metal" back in the 70s. He'd be chuckling at this news. For my part, I'm sticking to the shiny yellow stuff for my inflation hedge. Tungsten sounds a bit too industrial for my Gold IRA.

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    joshua_phillipsπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    This isn't investment advice, but I'm sticking with what I know. Saw an article about tungsten a few months back but it just feels like too much of a niche play. I'd rather stick with gold myself, especially with all the economic uncertainty swirling around. I got burned with some "sure thing" tech stock back in '08 when I was dabbling in day trading, so I'm all about diversification and proven assets now. Before finding this forum, I'd had some pretty bad experiences trying to figure out the Gold IRA landscape, especially with some of the pushy salesmen out there. Honestly, I didn't expect much from another gold forum, but GIRAB actually surprised me with the clarity. A good starting point for anyone feeling overwhelmed is to use the Gold IRA Quiz – it really does help match you with the right strategy for your situation without all the high-pressure sales tactics.

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    donald_nelsonπŸ’ŽPremium (500k-1m)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting article. I just started looking at physical gold for my IRA, didn't even realize tungsten was on the radar for some folks. Does anyone here actually diversify into things like tungsten or other industrial metals within their *retirement* accounts, or is that generally seen as too speculative compared to the traditional gold/silver play? Seems like a whole different ballgame.

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    maria_campbellπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)βœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    This tungsten news is certainly eye-catching, but honestly, it’s not shaking my conviction in gold one bit. I remember back in '08 when everyone was hyping up rare earths, and then again around 2012 with palladium. Had friends who jumped in, convinced they were getting in on the "next big thing" and most of them ended up either breaking even after years or selling at a loss. Gold, though, has always been the reliable anchor in my portfolio, especially after seeing my traditional investments take a hit more than once. I'm sitting on a solid 10% gain in my Gold IRA this year, just steady as she goes in Boise.

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    steven_mitchellπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Honestly, this tungsten news is interesting, but it just reinforces why I stick to gold for my core inflation hedge. I mean, remember back in 2008-09? My buddy in Cleveland invested a chunk of his 401k into some "hot" industrial metals ETF – nickel, zinc, all that jazz. When the market tanked, those industrial metals got absolutely hammered, worse than gold, because demand vanished overnight. He lost almost 40% of that portion before he finally pulled out. Meanwhile, my gold held its value, even saw a nice bump. It's tempting to chase these narratives about supply tightening for obscure metals, but the fundamental, universally recognized value of gold is what I rely on. I've got a good ~250k diversified in my Gold IRA with Augusta and a bit of physical at home, and that stability is worth way more to me than the speculative upside of tungsten. Gold doesn't need factory orders to maintain its appeal.

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    joseph_harrisπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)β€’about 9 hours ago

    @Sandra Green You're spot on, the fees can absolutely eat into your returns if you're not careful. When I started looking into my Gold IRA a few years back here in Nashville, that was one of my biggest sticking points. I ended up going with a company that charges a flat annual fee, not a percentage of assets, which made a huge difference as my portfolio grew from that initial $60k. It’s usually more economical once you hit a certain investment threshold.

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    ruth_perezπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)β€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting read, and I appreciate the deep dive into tungsten's industrial importance. While it's certainly a critical metal for a lot of high-tech applications, I'm not entirely convinced it's a direct competitor or alternative to gold in an investment portfolio, especially thinking about long-term wealth preservation. Gold's role as a non-correlated asset and its historical store of value feel fundamentally different from a commodity like tungsten, which is driven purely by industrial demand cycles.

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    william_davisπŸ’ŽPremium (500k-1m)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    @Margaret Chen You're spot on, the "shiny new object" paralysis is real. I nearly got sucked into a lithium play for my IRA a few years back that looked great on paper but the long-term fundamentals just weren't there for a *retirement* strategy. With gold, it’s not about outrunning the market next quarter, it’s about preserving purchasing power when everything else goes sideways. I've seen too many Dallas real estate bubbles burst to trust paper assets exclusively for my golden years. Stick with what's stood the test of time, and don't get distracted by the latest "commodity darling" headlines.

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    david_brownπŸ’ŽPremium (500k-1m)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting read, but I'm not sure I'd jump from that headline directly into selling off my gold IRA. We've seen these "new hotness" commodities come and go. My focus for retirement savings is on proven stability, which is why a significant chunk of my portfolio is in precious metals.

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    betty_kingπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)β€’about 9 hours ago

    This is interesting, but honestly, it just reinforces why I stick with gold. I remember back in '08, watching my 401(k) just *evaporate* with all the "hot" new plays folks were pushing. My dad, bless his heart, swore by gold, but I thought he was just being old-fashioned. That sinking feeling, though, watching a decade of work vanish in months, it really changed my perspective. That's when I started looking into gold IRAs, and it's been the bedrock of my retirement planning ever since. I've seen enough "next big things" come and go to know what I *don't* want to lose sleep over.

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    diane_baileyπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting read on tungsten gaining traction. I'm sitting on a decent chunk of gold in my IRA, about $180k now, and I've always been a bit wary of anything with industrial demand being so core to its value. With gold, even when industrial applications lag, jewelry and central bank buying tend to provide a floor. Does anyone have a good framework for how to evaluate if tungsten, or even something like strategic metals for EV batteries, could truly become a "safe haven" asset in the same way gold is often viewed, or will it always be too tethered to economic cycles and innovation?

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    christopher_young🌟Ultra (5m+)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting headline, but let's be real – equating tungsten to gold's role as a safe haven is comparing apples to lead bricks. Sure, industrial demand for tungsten is spiking, and supply chains are always a concern these days. But a true store of value, especially in an IRA, needs far more than just tightening supply in niche industrial sectors. It needs universal recognition, deep liquidity, and a 5,000-year history of being *money*. My gold holdings aren't for my iPhone's vibration motor.

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    matthew_murphyπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Yeah, I definitely see this. I still think gold is king for long-term stability and portfolio bedrock, but I've been eyeing industrial metals a lot more closely lately. GIRAB actually pushed me to diversify a bit beyond just precious metals a few years back, and I remember picking up some platinum and palladium when the EV boom was really starting to accelerate. Smart move, and now I'm watching tungsten. It's not sexy like gold, but the demand side looks really strong.

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    janet_cookπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)β€’about 9 hours ago

    Good to see folks discussing more than just the usual suspects. I’ve been keeping an eye on tungsten for a while now, especially with all the talk about supply chain resiliency. Don't forget that China controls something like 80% of the world's supply. That's a geopolitical leverage point that makes even *gold* look stable by comparison. I'm not saying dump your precious metals, but diversification into these less-often-discussed industrial metals isn't a bad idea, especially if you're looking at a longer horizon than just tomorrow's headlines.

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    sharon_evansπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    @Karen Robinson You know, exactly this. My folks got hammered in '08 and it stuck with me. For years, I just squirreled away cash, honestly. Thought gold was just for preppers or something. When I finally started looking into a Gold IRA, I expected a bunch of shysters and slick sales pitches, like I'd gotten trying to figure out some other investments. But this GIRAB place, gotta say, the actual tools and breakdowns here cut through a lot of that garbage. It actually made me realize the core hedging aspect is legit, not just some fear-mongering. My modest portfolio in Tulsa is definitely sleeping better since we diversified a good chunk into physical.

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    helen_turnerπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting article, but let's be real. Tungsten is a niche industrial metal, essential yes, but it doesn't carry the same geopolitical or monetary weight as gold. You can't exactly roll over an old 401k into tungsten bars for your IRA, can you? Stick with the tried and true for retirement security, folks.

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    susan_clarkπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting timing on this thread. I actually looked into tungsten as a potential uncorrelated asset a few years back, probably around 2021. The industrial demand is undeniably there, especially with geopolitics and supply chain shifts. However, for an IRA, the liquidity and storage aspects were a significant hurdle – something I already appreciate with my gold holdings. While it might show impressive gains on paper, exiting that position quickly without a hit, or even finding a regulated custodian for an IRA, seemed far more complex than the usual gold and silver.

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    donna_rogersπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    @Maria Campbell – I’m with you, this tungsten news seems like a blip in the radar. My concern, though, is less about tungsten itself and more about the *perception* it creates. Do you think sustained headlines like this, even if baseless, could start to push more timid investors away from gold, or at least cause enough uncertainty to drive some short-term volatility? I’m thinking about folks who aren’t as clued into the long game.

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    jason_morganπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting article, but I'm still keeping my focus on precious metals. I remember back in '08, right before the financial crisis really hit Jacksonville, everyone was talking about some new "hot commodity" that was going to revolutionize everything. I put a small amount into it – less than 10k, thankfully – and watched it absolutely crater while gold surged. That experience taught me a valuable lesson about chasing the next big thing versus sticking to proven stores of value, especially during uncertain times.

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    nancy_hallπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Tungsten? Interesting... I remember almost pulling the trigger on a small investment in some rare earth minerals back in 2018 when the trade war rumblings started getting serious. Everyone I knew was telling me it was too niche, too volatile. Thankfully, I stuck with what I knew, pouring that cash into a Gold IRA instead, and honestly, it felt like a lifeline when the market went sideways in 2020. That peace of mind, knowing a chunk of my portfolio was completely insulated from the daily circus, was worth more than any potential tungsten gains.

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    thomas_walkerπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Been looking into this myself β€” the fees on some of these custodians are wild. Anyone found one that doesn't gouge you?

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    james_wilsonπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Tungsten's interesting, but I'm not sure how it fits into *my* retirement strategy. My main focus remains on physical precious metals through my gold IRA. The stability and historical performance of gold for my retirement savings is a tough act to follow, especially after my 401k rollover a few years back. The tax advantages are also a huge draw.

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    joyce_cooperπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)βœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    My advisor told me 10-15% in gold is the sweet spot but I went heavier. We'll see how it plays out.

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    richard_garciaπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβ€’about 9 hours ago

    Interesting thread. My portfolio's mostly in gold and a few tech plays, so I'm pretty new to commodities beyond the precious metals. For those of you who've been in this space longer, is tungsten something that actually has a decent spot in a long-term retirement portfolio, or is it more of a tactical play for shorter-term gains due to these supply shocks? Just trying to figure out if it's even worth looking into beyond the headlines.

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    robert_thompsonπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 9 hours ago

    @Elizabeth Johnson, I hear you loud and clear. "Chasing the latest shiny object" was a lesson I learned the hard way in the dot-com bust, and again when I dabbled in some 'green energy' plays about a decade ago that went nowhere fast. That's precisely why I started seriously looking at gold for my IRA back in '16. The stability, the proven track record when everything else is going haywire – it just makes sense as a foundational hedge against all that speculative madness.

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