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    Roth Gold IRA vs. Traditional - What are you all doing for rollovers now?

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    • β€’I've been kicking this around a lot lately, especially with the market bouncing around.
    • β€’I’ve had about 20% of my portfolio in physical gold or gold ETFs for over two decades, which has been a lifesaver more times than I can count.
    • β€’My thinking is, with Social Security and a decent pension, my tax bracket probably isn't going to drop *that* much in retirement.
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    I've been kicking this around a lot lately, especially with the market bouncing around. I’m sitting on a pretty good chunk of change in a traditional IRA from my auto industry days – about $700k now – and I’m 65, retired comfortably here in Detroit. I’ve had about 20% of my portfolio in physical gold or gold ETFs for over two decades, which has been a lifesaver more times than I can count. Now I'm looking at rolling over a portion of that traditional IRA into a Gold IRA, and I'm really torn between the Roth Gold IRA or sticking with Traditional.

    My thinking is, with Social Security and a decent pension, my tax bracket probably isn't going to drop that much in retirement. So, paying the taxes on a Roth conversion now, even on a partial rollover, feels like a tough pill to swallow. But then again, the idea of having those gold gains grow tax-free for the rest of my life? That's mighty appealing, especially if gold decides to really take off like it did in the early 2000s when I first started getting serious about it. I was buying physical at like $300 an ounce back then, so I’ve seen what it can do.

    Has anyone here done a big Roth conversion for their Gold IRA recently? What was your reasoning? Are you just eating the tax hit now to avoid future RMDs and taxes on growth, or are you betting on lower tax brackets later in life? I’m also thinking about just converting a smaller amount, say $50k or $100k, to start and see how my tax situation plays out. It’s a big decision, and I’m trying to weigh all the angles. I’ve been looking at tools like the Gold vs Stocks Comparison to see how gold has performed over the long haul, and that just solidifies my belief in having it as a core part of my portfolio, regardless of the IRA type.

    What are your thoughts, especially for those of you who are already retired or close to it? Is the upfront tax hit of a Roth conversion worth it in the long run for gold, or is the continued tax deferral of a Traditional Gold IRA still the safer bet?

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    brian_edwards🌟Ultra (5m+)
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    maria_campbellπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)βœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 20 hours ago

    Totally agree with the sentiment here. The market volatility lately has made me seriously rethink my retirement strategy too. I'm in a similar boat, though not quite at your level yet, haha. πŸ˜… I've been looking at rolling over my old 401k from a tech company into a Gold IRA as well. The stability of gold is just so appealing right now compared to the rollercoaster of stocks.

    For me, it's about $250k in an old traditional account. I'm leaning heavily towards the traditional Gold IRA for the pre-tax benefits now, but definitely keeping an eye on future tax brackets. Good luck with your decision!

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    andrew_robertsπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 20 hours ago

    Man, this is exactly what I've been wrestling with! Not quite at your numbers or age, but I've got a decent chunk in a traditional 401k from my old tech job that I'm looking to roll over. The Roth vs. Traditional Gold IRA debate is real. I'm leaning Roth just for the tax-free withdrawals later, even if it stings now. But then I hear arguments about potential lower tax brackets in retirement. It's a head-scratcher for sure. Following this thread closely!

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    dorothy_lopezπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 20 hours ago

    Hey, interesting post! When you say "auto industry days," is that a 401k or a traditional IRA you rolled over at some point? Just curious about the source of the funds for the rollover, as it can sometimes affect options.

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    jason_morganπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 20 hours ago

    Honestly, I hear you on the Roth appeal, especially with market ups and downs. But at 65 with $700k in a traditional IRA? The tax hit on converting that much to a Roth right now, all at once, could be pretty brutal. We're talking about a significant chunk of change going to Uncle Sam immediately. Have you really run the numbers on what that would cost you versus just continuing with the traditional and dealing with RMDs later? The tax-free growth is sweet, but the upfront cost might outweigh the benefit in your specific situation, especially if you're not planning on truly massive withdrawals in retirement.

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    joshua_phillipsπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 20 hours ago

    Hey, great question! This is something I've been wrestling with too, especially as retirement gets closer. Given your age and the amount in your traditional IRA, you might want to look into the "Backdoor Roth" strategy, even if you don't qualify directly for Roth contributions. It's not always straightforward, but it can be a smart move for tax diversification in retirement. Here's a pretty clear breakdown from Investopedia that helped me understand it better: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/backdoor-roth-ira.asp

    Definitely worth discussing with a financial advisor who specializes in retirement planning and understands the nuances of gold IRAs as well. Good luck!

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    jennifer_martinezπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    Ngl I came here expecting the usual affiliate spam but the discussions are actually decent. Way better info than what I was getting from my old advisor.

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    patricia_millerπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)βœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    Just started my rollover process last month. The paperwork alone almost made me quit lol.

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    joyce_cooperπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)βœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    I was pretty skeptical about another gold IRA forum but the tools here on GIRAB actually surprised me β€” the calculator alone saved me hours of spreadsheet work.

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    christopher_young🌟Ultra (5m+)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    I was pretty skeptical about another gold IRA forum but the tools here on GIRAB actually surprised me β€” the calculator alone saved me hours of spreadsheet work.

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    margaret_chenπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβ€’about 17 hours ago

    I was pretty skeptical about another gold IRA forum but the tools here on GIRAB actually surprised me β€” the calculator alone saved me hours of spreadsheet work.

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    ashley_bakerπŸ’ΌStarter (0-50k)βœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    Genuinely curious β€” has anyone here actually tried to liquidate from their gold IRA? How smooth was that process?

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    andrew_robertsπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    I rolled over about $80k last year. Honestly the hardest part was just picking which metals to hold. Still second-guessing myself.

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    susan_clarkπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 17 hours ago

    Interesting take. I've heard the opposite from a few people though β€” would love to see some actual numbers on this.

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    brian_edwards🌟Ultra (5m+)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    Ngl I came here expecting the usual affiliate spam but the discussions are actually decent. Way better info than what I was getting from my old advisor.

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    joshua_phillipsπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    I was pretty skeptical about another gold IRA forum but the tools here on GIRAB actually surprised me β€” the calculator alone saved me hours of spreadsheet work.

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    sharon_evansπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 17 hours ago

    I keep going back and forth between gold and silver allocations. The gold-to-silver ratio right now is making silver look attractive.

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    ronald_morrisπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβ€’about 17 hours ago

    Just started my rollover process last month. The paperwork alone almost made me quit lol.

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    nancy_hallπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 17 hours ago

    My advisor told me 10-15% in gold is the sweet spot but I went heavier. We'll see how it plays out.

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    betty_kingπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)β€’about 17 hours ago

    Been looking into this myself β€” the fees on some of these custodians are wild. Anyone found one that doesn't gouge you?

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    joseph_harrisπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)β€’about 17 hours ago

    Been looking into this myself β€” the fees on some of these custodians are wild. Anyone found one that doesn't gouge you?

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    carol_carterπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 17 hours ago

    I keep going back and forth between gold and silver allocations. The gold-to-silver ratio right now is making silver look attractive.

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    ruth_perezπŸ“ŠGrowing (50-100k)β€’about 17 hours ago

    I keep going back and forth between gold and silver allocations. The gold-to-silver ratio right now is making silver look attractive.

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    paul_hillπŸ†Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    This mirrors what I've been seeing too. The macro environment right now is making a strong case for physical metals.

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    david_brownπŸ’ŽPremium (500k-1m)Real Investorβ€’about 17 hours ago

    This mirrors what I've been seeing too. The macro environment right now is making a strong case for physical metals.

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    diane_baileyπŸ’°Established (100-250k)Real Investorβ€’about 17 hours ago

    My advisor told me 10-15% in gold is the sweet spot but I went heavier. We'll see how it plays out.

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    james_wilsonπŸ‘‘Elite (1m-5m)Real Investorβœ“ Verifiedβ€’about 17 hours ago

    Genuinely curious β€” has anyone here actually tried to liquidate from their gold IRA? How smooth was that process?

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