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    Palladium in the IRA - anyone else diversify beyond gold/silver?

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    brian_edwards🌟Ultra (5m+)
    about 1 month ago
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    • Been seeing a few posts about Gold and Silver IRAs, which obviously, I'm a big proponent of.
    • My personal IRA is heavily weighted in both, probably like 60/40 gold to silver over the last decade.
    • Gold and silver have always been my go-to for that, but palladium's price trajectory has been interesting, even with the recent dips.
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    Been seeing a few posts about Gold and Silver IRAs, which obviously, I'm a big proponent of. My personal IRA is heavily weighted in both, probably like 60/40 gold to silver over the last decade. But I've been giving some serious thought to adding palladium lately, and wanted to see if any of you heavy hitters have already pulled the trigger on it. My current precious metals holdings are north of $2M, so I'm not talking about putting my entire life savings into a speculative asset, but I'm intrigued by the industrial demand and the supply constraints.

    My typical investment strategy, especially with the real estate development projects back home in Aspen, is to look for long-term value and something that can withstand economic shocks. Gold and silver have always been my go-to for that, but palladium's price trajectory has been interesting, even with the recent dips. I'm wondering if this is a good entry point or if it's still got some room to fall. Russia's situation and its role in palladium supply is definitely a factor I'm considering, but I'm also thinking about the long-term shift to EVs and what that might mean for catalytic converter demand. Does anyone have a strong opinion one way or another on whether that industrial demand is sustainable or on the decline?

    I've been talking to my precious metals dealer, who's usually pretty conservative, and even he thinks there could be a place for a small allocation. We're talking maybe 5-10% of my overall PM portfolio, nothing crazy. But even a 5% allocation at my level is a significant chunk of change, so I'm not looking to just throw darts at a board. Would love to hear from anyone who's actually bought palladium for their IRA. What was your rationale? Are you seeing the returns you expected? Any specific recommendations on coin types or bars that are IRA-eligible? Thanks in advance for the insights.

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    janet_cook📊Growing (50-100k)
    That's an interesting question and something I've looked into pretty closely from Providence. While palladium can be held in a precious metals IRA, the real kicker is finding a custodian willing to deal with it and at what cost. I found the bid-ask spread on palladium to be significantly wider than gold or silver, which eats into any short-term gains, plus the storage fees were a little higher when I priced it out. For my 50k gold IRA, I've stuck to gold and a smaller amount of silver for now due to liquidity and lower overhead, but I can see the appeal for true diversifiers.

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    catherine_bell🏆Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorabout 1 month ago

    Oh man, I've been down this road! Totally get the curiosity about palladium. My portfolio was super heavy in gold and silver for years, like yours. Got a bit antsy about putting all my eggs in those two baskets, so I dipped my toe into platinum a few years back. Not palladium, but similar vibe – wanting to diversify within precious metals. It's been an interesting ride, definitely adds another layer to watch.

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    sharon_evans💰Established (100-250k)Real Investorabout 1 month ago

    Interesting! You mentioned a 60/40 gold to silver split for the last decade. Did you gradually build up to that, or was it a more recent rebalancing after a certain market event?

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    donna_rogers🏆Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorabout 1 month ago

    Interesting thought on palladium! While it definitely has its industrial uses, I kinda see it as a wild card compared to gold and silver. Gold has that timeless store-of-value thing going on, and silver, while more volatile, still has a clear monetary history and industrial demand. Palladium, though? Seems a bit more tied to specific sectors and can swing pretty hard.

    I'm not saying don't do it, but for an IRA, which is usually long-term and focused on stability, a significant chunk in palladium feels like a higher risk play. Maybe a small allocation for speculative upside, but I'd personally stick to the tried and true for the bulk of my precious metals IRA. Just my two cents!

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    donald_nelson💎Premium (500k-1m)Real Investor✓ Verifiedabout 1 month ago

    Hey, that's a solid question! Diversifying metals in an IRA makes a lot of sense, especially with palladium's industrial demand. While it's not as common as gold or silver, it definitely has its place.

    One resource I found super helpful when looking into this was the IRS's own guidelines on what precious metals are allowed in an IRA. It specifically mentions palladium meeting certain fineness standards. Always good to double-check the official sources!

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    nancy_hall💰Established (100-250k)Real Investorabout 1 month ago

    Totally agree with the sentiment here! Gold and silver are the foundation for sure. I'm probably closer to 70/30 gold/silver myself, but I just started dabbling in platinum within my IRA this year. Palladium is definitely on my radar too, especially with the industrial demand. Good to know I'm not the only one looking beyond the big two!

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    kenneth_parker💎Premium (500k-1m)Real Investor✓ Verifiedabout 1 month ago

    Yeah, I totally get where you're coming from. For years, I just stuck with gold and silver in my IRA, figured why mess with a good thing. But about five years ago, I started looking at palladium. Prices were interesting, and my conviction was that industrial demand wasn't going anywhere. Tossed about 8% of my precious metals allocation into it back then. Honestly, no regrets; it's performed pretty well and adds a nice layer of diversification that still feels "precious metals" without just piling more into gold.

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    laura_sanchez💰Established (100-250k)Real Investor✓ Verifiedabout 1 month ago

    Palladium's an interesting one, for sure. I dipped my toes back in '17 when it was still around $800-900/oz. Made a decent chunk, but eventually rotated most of it back into gold and some physical silver. My biggest concern with palladium for an IRA is market liquidity if things get truly sideways – feels a bit more niche than the big two, and El Paso isn't exactly a hotbed for precious metals dealers outside of standard bullion. Keep your eyes on industrial demand, that's where palladium really shines and falters.

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    robert_thompson💰Established (100-250k)Real Investor✓ Verifiedabout 1 month ago

    Interesting thought on Palladium, and I've seen a few others here on GIRAB chat about it. For me, staying purely with gold and silver for my precious metals self-directed IRA has always felt like the smarter play, especially with my portfolio in the $150k range. The liquidity differences, especially if you ever need to liquidate quick, between gold/silver and something like palladium are pretty significant in my experience. I've always thought the relative stability of gold, even with its ups and downs, is a better fit for retirement planning than chasing the higher volatility of industrial metals.

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    janet_cook📊Growing (50-100k)about 1 month ago

    That's an interesting question and something I've looked into pretty closely from Providence. While palladium *can* be held in a precious metals IRA, the real kicker is finding a custodian willing to deal with it and at what cost. I found the bid-ask spread on palladium to be significantly wider than gold or silver, which eats into any short-term gains, plus the storage fees were a little higher when I priced it out. For my 50k gold IRA, I've stuck to gold and a smaller amount of silver for now due to liquidity and lower overhead, but I can see the appeal for true diversifiers.

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    catherine_bell🏆Advanced (250-500k)Real Investorabout 1 month ago

    I had a small allocation to palladium for a hot minute back in 2020-2021, mostly because the auto industry was going nuts. Saw some decent gains, but the volatility scared me off. Ended up consolidating back into gold and some physical silver I keep at home in Spokane. For me, the whole point of a precious metals IRA is stability, and palladium just feels a little too speculative compared to the OG safe havens. It's an interesting discussion point though – maybe I'm too conservative.

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    jason_morgan💰Established (100-250k)Real Investor✓ Verifiedabout 1 month ago

    Honestly, I looked into palladium a few years back when my Gold IRA reached around $150k. The volatility scared me off, even with the diversification aspect. I stumbled across this article from SchiffGold that broke down the historical performance comparison of all four precious metals (gold, silver, platinum, palladium) in an IRA context. It's an old one but still highly relevant – really helped me solidify my decision to stick to gold and silver for now. Still sitting pretty here in Jacksonville!

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    ruth_perez📊Growing (50-100k)about 1 month ago

    I've been looking into diversifying beyond just gold and silver myself, especially since things here in Albuquerque are getting pricey. For anyone on the fence about silver, I found the Silver vs Stocks comparison tool on this site really useful to see how it's performed over the last 10 years. Made me think twice about just piling into gold.

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    helen_turner💰Established (100-250k)Real Investorabout 1 month ago

    Yeah, I've looked at palladium but haven't pulled the trigger yet. My portfolio is mostly gold, with a little silver for industrial demand plays, totaling around $150k. I found this really detailed article on *Investopedia* comparing the historical returns and industrial uses of all four precious metals – gold, silver, platinum, and palladium. It helped me understand the different market drivers a lot better.

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    patricia_miller📊Growing (50-100k)✓ Verifiedabout 1 month ago

    @Jason Morgan Yeah, palladium's a whole different beast, isn't it? I totally get being scared off by the volatility. My Gold IRA is smaller, sitting around 70k, and I basically went all in on gold because, honestly, I'd been burned before with some "diversification" advice that felt more like a sales pitch. This forum, GIRAB, actually gave me some really solid tools to analyze the gold/silver spread that made me feel more comfortable, rather than just pushing me to buy whatever was most profitable for *them*.

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